Jesus and Muhammad

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JESUS ​​AND MUHAMMAD by Mark A. Gabriel, PhD

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Unless otherwise stated, quotations from the Koran comes from The Noble Quran, English translation of the comments and cognition published by King Fahd of Saudi Arabia in Madina, "The City Of Light," Saudi Arabia, 1998. Translated by DR. Muhammad Taqi-uddin al-Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan.

Quotes from the Quran with ALI Subtitles mark of The Quran Translation, 7th Edition, by Abdullah Tusef Ali (Elmhurst, NY: Tahrike Tarsile Quran, Inc., 2001).

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Preliminary

Without the need to doubt, 'Jesus and Muhammad' are the two most influential person who ever lived. Today we can see their influence in the world's two largest religions: Christianity with more than two billion followers, and Islam with 1.3 billion.

There are two significant differences of the two groups. Almost all Christians are aware that they only have a tiny fraction of pemahamam about Muhammad and what it teaches ang. Muslims, on the other hand, believe that they hit who was Jesus and what He taught, but their beliefs contrary to what the New Testament teaches.

So the question is: How did the we can see the true picture of these two people at the same time? First, we need to know an important principle: we must distinguish between leaders and followers. We can not see Christians to learn what Jesus taught, or see Muslims to mengetahuiapa that Muhammad taught. We should not focus on the actions of those who call drinya Christian or Muslim. No matter how many terrorists call themselves Muslims, and no matter how many Nazis or Crusaders called themselves Christians.

Instead, we must look directly to the teaching and actions of 'Jesus and Muhammad' as recorded on reliable sources.

There is a big difference between looking directly its own resources and rely on people to say what the sources say. I believe that is why Muslims do not understand Jesus and Christians and Christians do not understand Muhammad.

The purpose of my book is to guide you and take you to the original source so you can see these two men alone, you might ask, what makes me qualified to do this? My answer is that I have met with these two men. Although I have a Christian name now, I was born with the name Muslim.Walaupun I have a PhD in Christian Science, I also mmiliki PhD in Islamic history of Al-Azhar University in Cairo. Although this book is written in English, my native language is Arabic. I've been walking in two worlds.

In the western world, you have a lot of people who know a lot about the life of Jesus. And in the Islamic world, you DAPT find many Muslims who are experts on the life of Muhammad. But it's hard to find someone who speaks to the western world about Muhammad from sources which asli.Itulah why I feel has something unique to offer. As a reference, I suggest once you read Appendix A of this book, which describes the sources that I use as information about Muhammad and Jesus. If you are a westerner, it is impossible for you to understand the quotations from Islamic sources unless you read Appendix A.

The rest of this book is logically organized to guide you to the topics:

  1. On the unity I tell my background and how I can see the life of Jesus and Muhammad side by side. At the time I write or speak, I rarely tell my educational background in detail, but I do in this book because you have to know that the information about Muhammad comes from a reliable source. If you are not interested in reading my story, please go directly to the second part.
  2. In the second part you will read about what Jesus and Muhammad did during their lives. Here you will find a variety of interesting parallel facts, such as the fact that both are foreseen when the children, both had cousins ​​who introduced them kepad public, both rejected by the city of his birth, both have 12 students. In this chart Jesus and Muhammad will walk together from birth until death.
  3. The third section focuses on what they inherit reversed from what they are taught and demonstrated. Difference becomes clear. First you will learn about the claims themselves and the message to the world. This was followed by what Muhammad said about Jesus and what Jesus might have said about the Koran. Then we will examine the activities that dominated their lives. For Jesus, healing and miracles; for Muhammad, holy man. Chapters 14,15, and 16, comparing their teachings on love, prayer, and women. This section diakhri with two chapters that focus on quotations that show (1) a comparison of how Jesus and Muhammad reacted in four events by chance the same. And (2) their teaching on 8 main subjects compared verse by verse.
  4. In section 4, I provide a summary of the key facts about Jesus and Muhammad, and what happened to me personally I once met with Jesus and Muhammad side by side

If you read this book in a free country, you are a lucky yan. You have the right to find out about anything. D banayak the Muslim world will never know the information in this book. Their leader will keep him away from them. However, both the Bible and the Quran say the truth will prove itself (Acts 5: 33-40; Sura 2: 256).

So let's learn the facts about 'Jesus and Muhammad'.

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  1. EXCERPT FROM BELOW IN THE STORY

    There is a big difference between looking directly its own resources and rely on people to say what the sources say. I believe that is why Muslims do not understand Jesus and Christians and Christians do not understand Muhammad.

    .Let PROVE WE ARE THE TRUE STORY;

    1. (THE MUSLIMS WORSHIP GOD WHAT THE ISA worship)

    This is your bible ARTICLE:

    John 5:30
    I can not do nothing of myself; I judge according to what I hear, and my judgment is just, because I did not follow my own will, but the will of him who sent me.

    John 7:16
    Jesus said to them: "My teaching does not come from myself, but from him who sent me.

    and many more chapters in the Bible that states isa not god

    MUSLIM PEOPLE DO NOT EAT PORK ISA AS IS ALSO NOT nDo PIG

    In the book of Leviticus, Chapter 11, version 7, are listed
    that God did not acknowledge the pig is sacred to the followers of Christianity. Then in version 8, the Lord
    said: "The meat of animals that do not
    ye eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch, is unclean unto you ". This command is repeated in Deuteronomy, 14: 7-8. Then in Isaiah (Isaiah), 65: 2-4 and 66:17, God warn loud to people who eat pork

    This is a genuine follower of Jesus who
    obey his teachings, do not justify these forbidden foods like pork entering their mouths. Thus, Peter, chairman of the followers of Jesus, boldly asserts: "No, Lord, do not, for I have never eaten anything impure or unclean". (Acts, Chapter 10, version 14).

    ISLAM 2.ORANG CIRCUMCISION: ISA ALSO CIRCUMCISION

    This is your bible ARTICLE:

    17: 7 I will make a covenant between Me and you and your descendants for generations into the everlasting covenant, that I should be your God and the God of your descendants.

    17: 8 To you and to your offspring I will give this land that kaudiami as a stranger, all the land of Canaan which I will give be yours for ever; and I will be their God. "

    17: 9 And he said God told Abraham: "From your side, you have to hold my covenant, you and your descendants for generations.

    17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall hold, the agreement between me and you and thy seed, that every male among you shall be circumcised;

    17:11 khatanmu skin should be cut off and that will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.

    17:12 child who is eight days old shall be circumcised, that every male among you, from generation to generation: whether born in your house, or bought with money of any stranger, but not including descendants.

    17:13 People born in the house and the person you bought with your money must be circumcised; then in dagingmulah my covenant be everlasting covenant.

    17:14 And those who are not circumcised, the men who did not cut off his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from among his people: he has broken my covenant. "
    17:24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when his foreskin cut off.

    17:25 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old when cut off his foreskin.

    17:26 On that same day Abraham and Ishmael, his son, were circumcised.

    17:27 And all the people of his household, whether born in his house, or bought with money from a foreigner, were circumcised along with him.

    3. ISLAM NOT DRINK ALCOHOL DRINKING ISA ALSO NOT ALKOHOK

    This is your bible ARTICLE:

    Ephesians 5:18
    And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation (the Greek word for "lust" means "life is wasted, not moral; do not have good morals, spree").

    Proverbs 23: 21a
    For drunkards and gluttons become poor.

    1 Corinthians 5:11
    But I am writing to you is that you will not get along with people, who even calls himself a brother, are obscene, money hungry, idolater, slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler; with such a person shall not occasionally eat together.

    AND STILL MORE QUIET Section 2 DRUGS

    ISLAM fond YATIMPIATU ISA ALSO SO

    1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God, our Father, is to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to prevent himself unstained by the world.

    ISLAM JESUS ​​VERSION

    Personal Jesus in Islam and Christianity are very contradictory, and this conflict often cause heated debate. According to Islam, Jesus was just a man who was revealed to him the Holy Bible to be taught to the children of Israel at that time. Meanwhile, according to Christian doctrine, Jesus was a human being begotten by God through the Virgin Mary.

    As a Muslim I want to show other Muslim brothers nature of Jesus in Islam. However, the nature of Jesus is taken based on the Bible, the Old Testament and the New Testament. Because, it turns out in the Bible there is a dualism of the nature of Jesus, ie as a messenger of God, and as children of God.

    Here is the essence of Jesus according to Islam is taken in the Bible:

    1. Jesus taught the oneness of God

    Matthew 4:10: "Then Jesus said to him: 'Get behind me, Satan! For it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve '"

    Explanation: If Jesus was God, of course he would say: "Get behind me, the devil, because it is written," Only me alone you worship! "

    Explanation: There is no doubt, that Jesus is not God to be worshiped. Jesus told myself before the Lord. All Muslims wherever they are, to worship only God is worshiped by Jesus, God Almighty.

    2. Jesus claimed prophets and apostles

    Matthew 13:57: Then they are disappointed and rejected Him. Then Jesus said to them, "A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own country and in his house." (Matthew 21:11, Mark 6: 4, Luke 4:24, Luke 3:33, John 4:44 )

    John 5:30: "I can not do nothing of myself; I judge according to what I hear, and my judgment is just, because I did not follow my own will, but the will of him who sent me. "(Apostle = messenger)

    Explanation: Jesus claimed to be honest, that he was only a prophet. All Muslims, wherever they are made Jesus as a prophet and apostles. Muslims make Jesus as God's messenger or messengers of God as the recognition of Jesus in the Bible.

    3. Jesus taught Syahadatain (Islamic creed)

    John 17: 3: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

    Explanation: Jesus claimed to be honest and plain, that the only true god is Allah., And he was only a messenger of God. This means that Jesus taught the shahadah (syahadatin), which if in a language arabkan "Anla Ashhadu ilaha illallahu, Ashhadu wa anna 'Jesus the prophet." (I testify that there is no god but Allah and testify that Jesus is the messenger of Allah).

    After the death of Jesus, the prophet Muhammad. also teaches the shahadah (syahadatin) namely: "Ashhadu Anla ilaha illallahu, wa anna Ashhadu Muhammador the prophet." (I testify that there is no god but Allah and testify that Jesus is the messenger of Allah).

    4. Jesus was circumcised (circumcised)

    Luke 2:21: "And when the end of eight days, when he was circumcised, he was named Jesus, the name called by the angel before he was conceived his mother."

    Explanation: Jesus was circumcised because they follow God's command in Genesis: 17 through the Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham). Everyone who claims the Ummah of Muhammad and Muslims, must be circumcised because of following the sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim. and Prophet 'Isa.

    5. Jesus say Insha Allah (if Allah wills)

    James 4: 13-17: (13) So now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we went to that town, and there we will spend a year and do business and make a profit", (14) are you do not know what will happen tomorrow. What is the meaning of your life? It is even a vapor that briefly appear and then disappear. (15) You ought to say "If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that." (16) But now you boast in congkakmu and all the splendor that is considered one of (17) Thus, if one knows how to do good, but he did not do it, sins.

    Explanation: The Bible teaches, that if said sesuat are not necessarily or not inevitable, let say Inshallah (God willing).

    6. Jesus shrouded when she died

    Mark 15:46: Joseph also bought fine linen, and took down the body of Jesus on the cross and that it in linen cloths. And laid him in a tomb which had been hewn out of the rock. Then he rolled a stone against the tomb pintui.

    Explanation: According to the Bible verse above, Jesus died ketikaa shrouded using woven fabrics instead dressed like people who want to get married. He also does not use a coffin buried. In fact, Jesus' tomb was not concreted but only put a stone on it as a sign.

    Muslims when dead, his body should be hastened disunnahkan bury him, shrouded, and do not use the crate.

    7. Jesus told his followers that women wear headscarves

    1 Corinthians 11: 5-6, 10.13: (5) But every woman who prays or prophesies with his head hooded not insult the head, because he is the same as the woman who had his head shaved. (6) For if a woman will not cover her head, then she should cut off her hair. However, if the woman is an insult, that shaved, she should cover her head. (10) Therefore, a woman should have a symbol of authority on her head because of the angels. (13) Consider yourself: Should women pray to God with her head no veil?

    Explanation: The Bible teaches, women must be veiled, meaning that should cover her head. Even sanctions if it does not cover her head, her hair should be cut alias dibotakin. In all painting a picture of Mother Mary the mother of Jesus, was he wearing a headscarf. Also all the nuns although imperfect, they wear the hijab head covering similar. It proves people who wear veils to cover their heads.

    8. Jesus pray facing the Qibla (direction of the Kaaba)

    Psalm 5: 8: "But I, thanks to thy lovingkindness is great, I will go into thy house, bow down toward your holy temple in the fear of thee".

    Explanation: The Bible teaches, that if prayer (prayer) should be facing the qibla with ways to kneel and bow to the temple to worship Him. The Temple Beth El = = = Baitullah Ka'aba. All Muslims wherever they are, if you want to do the obligatory prayers and sunnah prayers certainly prostrate facing the Qiblah.

    9. Jesus did not eat pork

    New mold Bible in 1996-2005:

    Leviticus 11: 7-8: And the swine, because it divides the hoof, which is punctuated long nails, but does not chew the cud; unclean unto you. Meat animals shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch; unclean unto you.

    Deuteronomy 14: 8: And the swine, because it divides the hoof, but does not chew the cud; unclean unto you. Meat animals shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not exposed.

    Old prints Bible 1991:

    Imamat11: 7-8: And the swine, because it divides the hoof, which is punctuated long nails, but does not chew the cud, is unclean unto you.

    Old prints Bible 1941:

    Leviticus 11: 7-8: And again pig, because soenggoehpon koekoenja split doewa, IJA itoe bersiratan koekoenja, but no crunching IJA wise, the IJA haramlah kapadamoe. Kamoe, Give, Give up eating than dagingnja and poela Kamoe mendjamah bangkainja, the IJA haramlah kapadamoe.

    Explanation: According to the Bible pigs unclean, let alone eat it, touching the body alone is forbidden in the Bible. All Muslims forbid pork.

    10. Jesus did not drink wine or other liquor

    Luke 1:15: "Before he would be great in the sight of the Lord, and he will not drink wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb."

    REASON Refuted

    There was a Christian when asked why the worship of Jesus is as following:

    1. Jesus is the son of God

    2. Jesus was born without mixing with men

    3. Jesus knew things unseen

    4. Jesus united with God

    5. Jesus was pure from sin

    6. Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit

    Actually the opinions of the above can be broken only by the evidence in the Bible. The following are Bible verses that reject the opinions of the above:

    Jesus is the Son of God

    There are many verses that explain, that Jesus was not the son of God. Such evidence include:

    1) "Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary who gave birth to Jesus who is called Christ." Matthew 1: 6 (The begotten certainly not God)

    2) "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn son." Exodus 4:22 (The Meaning of God's children is just a mere allusion to his loved ones)

    3) "I am the father of Israel, and that Afraim firstborn son." Jeremiah 31: 9 (According to the Bible, God has many children)

    Jesus Born Without mixing with men

    Here is proof, that it was not Jesus who was born without mixing with men.

    1) "For Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High; he went out to meet Abraham when Abraham came back and beat the kings and blessed him. Abraham also give him a tenth of everything. According to the meaning of the name Melchizedek is is first king of righteousness, and also king of Salem, which is king of peace. Without father, without mother, without genealogy, without beginning and the next day his life is ending, and because he made the same as the Son of God, he remains a priest forever. I Hebrews 7: 1,2,3 (Melchizedek is greater than Jesus).

    2) Adam was born without mixing between men and women (Jesus had a mother, Mary).

    Jesus Knowing Things Unseen

    According to Christian belief Jesus is the son of God and knows things unseen. However, it turns out paragraph below reject these assumptions.

    1) "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. But, on that day or hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven were not, and Son, but the Father. "Mark 13: 31,32 (According to this verse Jesus did not know the coming of the Hour that is Unseen)

    Jesus Unity with God

    1) "About the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice: 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?', My God, my God why have you forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46 (When will the cross, God turns split [left] with Jesus)

    Holy Jesus of Sin

    All Christians believe that Jesus is the one who is free from sin. But the verses below shows, that Jesus never committed a sin:

    1) "So John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness and called: 'Repent and be baptized, and God will forgive your sins.'" (Mark 1: 4). (People who are innocent may not commanded to repent).

    2) "Jesus gave liquor to others." (John 2: 8).

    Though said about liquor; "Wine and wine eliminate the power of thought." (Hosea 4:11).

    3) According to the Bible, Jesus also told a lie, because the Id Khayam he said to his brothers, "Come to the feast. I have not gone there, because my time is not yet fulfilled. " Having said these things to them, and he was living in Galilee. However, when his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up, not publicly, but secretly. "(John 7: 8-10).

    Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit

    According to the Bible, Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. However, it was not only Jesus who is filled with the Holy Spirit, even ordinary people were filled with the Holy Spirit:

    1) "The proposal pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, and Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas and Nicolas, a proselyte of Antioch." (Acts 6 : 5)

    2) "And when Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the child leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled premises of the Holy Spirit."

    3) "And we are witnesses of these things, we and the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him." (Acts 5:12) (All who obey God will be filled with the Holy Spirit)

    Jesus had a miracle can raise the dead, cure blindness and leprosy

    Jesus is God because he has the spirit of divinity, as evidenced by the rank ketuhannnya so he can revive the dead. This is the similarity of God with Jesus. But again it is not absolutely only Jesus who has the ability. Unfortunately, people who have the ability to not be considered a god. The following are the people who have the ability like Jesus:

    According to the Bible, Elisa can perform miracles like Jesus did, like: raise the dead, heal the blind and the leper's disease, and others. Here's the proof:

    1. Elisa can mengidupkan dead.

    "At one time people were buried. When they saw the hordes arrive, they cast the man into the sepulcher of Elisha, then go. And for the sake of the body touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood on his feet. "(II Kings chapter 13:21).

    2. Elisha could heal the blind

    "Then Elisha prayed: 'O Lord: Open presumably his eyes so he could see.' Then the Lord opens the eyes of the footmen, and he saw ... .. "(II Kings 6:17)

    3. Elisa can cure leprosy / leprosy

    "But Naaman went off in a huff and said: 'I thought, that at least he would come out and stand and call on the name of the Lord his God in the top spot of the disease and cure the skin disease!'"

    ISLAM SO KNOW MORE Almasi Jesus son of Mary IN YOUR APPEAL
    ISLAM DOING WHAT DO ISA

    THANK

  2. OOT love ya ..., but have not read the book let alone the content of his writing ... .wkwkwk
    if Muhammad how ya ...?

    sweet regards ...;)

  3. WAH BEGINNING OF MALES HAVE READ AJA SY, OUT ... THE WRITER DAH By KLO NEVER KTEMU MA JESUS ​​AND MUHAMMAD. BIRTH OF YAH HIGHLANDER BRP PAK ??? ??? He2 ...

  4. Mas, you are too short-sighted if say so ....
    You know ??? Wearing the hijab, do not eat pork, etc. such as you said is customary of Jews and orang2 orang2 Persian and Arabic that has existed from the beginning. ARAB orang2 tradition. Jesus was born before Islam existed.

    You jgn sok tau. Do not pretentious way. You just wrote spread SLANDEROUS ....

    Bible verses are taken sepotong2 jgn. Will be different meaning and meaning.

    Do not just take your own conclusions from the sights.

    Ginilah, answer my question:
    - Why in the teachings of Islam are taught to hate Isarel and Christian ??? But we, Christians, never hate you.

    - Why the Prophet Muhammad had more than 50 wives? What in Islam, wives / women just so satisfying lust alone ???

    - Why, like that ever I heard from the media that contains recognition org2 entrant to Christianity, 80% of the Koran tells ttg Jesus (Isa)?
    Get it first you do not know or deny means you shallow in religion and just use your logic.

    - There are still many questions that if we, Christians, responsible according to our thoughts, how do you think ?????

  5. One more ...

    - Why Islam just wear Idioms in teaching Arabic ????
    God Is not it mahatau ???? Or because of fear of getting caught all the contents ???

  6. CHRISTIAN neither SIH ISLAM WHICH FIRST ....... ??????? responsible dunk ......

    exp: there who understand UPGRADE ......... ??????? nah it's an upgrade .... certainly ga offing old one was ... .realita aja aja ... so why bother ...... ??????

    Jesus Love you

  7. -Islam have always been taught to hate the Christians / Christian ataw israel. bahakan prophet Muhammad never coexist with these people. Once, when the Prophet entered Mecca in triumph in Fathu Mecca and ordered to destroy all statues and idols, including the named Hubal, he found a picture of the Virgin Mary (the Virgin) and Isa al-Masih (the Son) in the Ka'ba. He then saved two images it by putting it in his robe (See al-Arzaqi, Akhbar Mecca, pp. 165-169). Statue of Mary, which is located in one of the pillars of the Ka'ba and the statue of Jesus Christ in Hijirnya filled with various ornaments, left standing upright (Kardi Ali, al-Islam wa al-Hadlarah, the Section I, p. 123). This action is told various sources as a form of Jesus and Muhammad Awards mother. In fact, the award was not only against the person of Jesus, but also on the pengikuttnya.

    It is said that the Prophet had received the visit of the Najran Christians leaders of 60 people. The delegation was led by Abdul Still, al-Ayham, and Abu Haritha bin Alqama. Abu Haritha was a respected figure because of the depth of knowledge, and it is said, because they are also some of its intercession. Menunut Muhammad ibn Ja'far ibn al-Zubayr, when the group reached Madina, they went straight to the mosque. At that time, the Prophet is implementing the Asr prayer with his companions. They come with a robe and turban, which is also commonly worn clothes of the Prophet Muhammad and his companions. When the time arrives services, they did not have to look for a church. Prophet allow them to perform prayers in the mosque [Read Ibn Hisham, al-Siyrah al-Nabawiyah, the Section II, p. 426-428].

    -nabi Muhammad had many wives not because of lust, that are intended to help janda2 whose husband died kaena war and to spread the religion of Islam. logically: better wife many of the free sex done in the western world which led to HIV / aids.

    -because we believe there sebulum Prophets Muhammad, prophet prophets before Muhammad only the designation for one age alone, and so did isa, isa in designation only for one age is the time of the children of Israel. Prophet prophet isa US is so great because he was appointed to be an apostle, namely that includes Among the apostles who has the nickname Ulul Azmi was Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. They are said to have the highest levels among the apostles.

    carry on using Islam in Arabic because Muhammad fell in Arabs. and the rest Wallahualam bisoab. only God knows ,,,
    -God Omniscient, but like where we are trying to find out the Secret of God.

    EX_MOES: I believe that the gamma-Christian / Christian first of Islam but Christianity that there now is not the one true Christian religion according to the teachings of ISA.
    because the content of the gospel itself has been changed by the Pope,
    and Islam religions that complement existing ones,

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    going where you Muslims after death? kesurgakah / hell? Why accept Jesus as Savior hard, let's see what the prophet Muhammad said when asked his followers, dlm letter of 46 Al Ahqaaf 9, ...... "It is not I who first among the apostles, and I do not know what will be done to me and to you ... .tuch the prophet Muhammad would have no notion what the hell to heaven later this clear word of God from the Qur'an, try to compare with Isa disurat (3 Ali imran 45). ............ Name Christ Jesus the son of Maryam, the world's leading and hereafter ......... (19 Maryam 33) and well-being delegated to me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive, (together with the story of the prophet Yahya jg dlm Qur'an ttg this paragraph), this adl an exemplary SAFETY reply as guidance for mankind from God, so would let alone ???
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    Muhammad Nuh
    March 16, 2010 • 5:04 am

    one more thing is not the prophet muhammad tp cm rasul.mau know the difference, apostles received revelation from Allah, through intermediaries such as 12 rasul2 Jesus, receive instruction from Yesus.klo muhammad diajarin / delivered angel jibril.klo the Prophet received revelations directly from God without an intermediary nabi2 .spt large, Daud, Abraham, Moses, and they deserve to be called a prophet Isa.makanya, example: Jesus, Prophet David, Prophet Abraham, Moses, mrk ga Daud deserve to be called apostle, apostle Moses, Abraham apostle, (ever heard ga in the Qur'an such as mrk called it) ?. cb Muhammad, the Messenger Muhammad khan weve cm inappropriate deserve jd apostles (vice / messenger Prophet to-people or more precisely hnya a regular teacher) .pernah ga Muhammad called nabiuloh. klo worth calling nabiuloh certainly be called the prophet Muhammad, in two sentences creed Muhammad Allah's Apostle wrote bkn nabiuloh.cuma honorary teachers ngaku2 nabi.huhhhh

  9. still in confused about babi.lihat in the Quran more closely there is said to be eaten all gods creatures, including pigs,
    under paragraph of this dialquran the Arabs made a serum which is produced by the company of the Swiss containing lard
    which is injected to the congregation prospective Hajj / Umrah for which immunity, ask kpd anyone who ever went immediately into the holy mecca, once ga them in immunization medicine before heading off to the land of Arabs because it is required to tablets, and MUI approved course this ga in haram..krn fatwa that the drug has not been found again matched with the genes of the human body, just so you know who wrote the animals only pig sequence 1, then the order of 2 sheep and monkeys order 3, which has a similar body structure manusia.dan most perfect reply to strutur and gene man it's just a pig.
    because this command from the Arab countries so sah2 course, want pork, tai would also be consumed origin and ketetentuan this command from the Arab lands, (READ NEWS UPDATE), MMG AND CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS BYK finally pray for the peace of this news is covered and at the intersection siurkan / dikaburkan.tp smp skrg the serum is still produced and consumed Muslims, swiss company's president director Indonesia adl a reply which I also kenal.dan sy also worked in the company of this drug distributors.
    conclusion: MUNAFIKKKKKKKKKKKK
    klo ga caught up terussssss, injected mean absorbed into the body through the bloodstream, mending delicious eaten all koq.
    hahahhha.moga besok2 ada perintah/ketentuan baru yg mewajibkan para jemaah haji bertelanjang bulat sembari memakan kotoran sendiri..coba kita lihat diikuti/tidak,karena ini perintah dari arab.

  10. 1. What is the usefulness of "aqiqah" in Islam some say mandatory, some say the Sunnah, then the command in Islam regarding this case reads like this: Allah's Apostle's word ... Every child mortgaged with aqiqah he disembelihkan animals on the seventh day of his birth given name and shaved his head . (HR.tirmizi, nasai, Ibn Majah and samiroh) Other definitions aqiqah adl our efforts to redeem the children of our children's tergadai.pertanyaan lg mortgaged kpd who? kpd what the devil the devil what Allah (God is not giving children the grace and gift krn means free donk ga wear strings attached)? trus klo incapacitate krn pp BYK who do aqiqah smp even death pp aqiqah sin ga?
    2.Kenapa Allah change the direction of Qibla Kiblat.krn first reply was towards Baitul Maqdis in the city of Jerusalem (al-Aqsa mosque skrg) .skrg Qiblah direction to Mecca in arab.Apa God is confused koq so fickle?
    3.perintah sholat itu dari siapa ?dari nabi muhammad(manusia),atau Allah.krn sebelum islam sholat jg dijalankan,umat kristen & yahudi zaman dulu(namanya “shellota”perintah atau buatan para pemuka agama kristen & yahudi) sblm islam lahir(kitab suci alquran,surat albaqarah hal 1 pada catatan kaki,disebut para ulama islam bhw sholat ibadah yg sdh dikenal).sholat artinya: doa yg teratur.smp skrg kristen ditimur tengah masih menjalankannya.
    - trus klo perintah Allah koq ga semua org bisa melakukannya,misal sakit keras,cacat,dsb.koq susah ya?seharusnya berkomunikasi dgn Tuhan gampang bagaimanapun kondisi apapun bisa berdoa saja cukup,siapa sj bisa melakukannya,org bisu pun bs krn berdoa bs hanya dldlm hati yg tertuju padaNya.
    -if of GOD, God knp ill take into account the nature and timing krn with the creation of the earth, for example: in some countries such as Russia, the region with the other regions of different calculation / amount of time some 20 hours the sun is shining, there is a 16 hour ga fair dunk klo fasting, which amount the sun shines longer kasian..dikutub north (sy ever duty there) every month of June-July each year, the sun does not ever stop shining sun shines 22-24 hours / day, so the afternoon continued, sy kpn maghrib prayer, Isha, and subuhnya yes, then klo fitting fasting month of June / July kpn open and sahurnya.apa have to follow the time dimekkah? meant only for org islam arabic alone dunk.
    4.trus why obligatory pilgrimage, and what virtue / advantage for us that that is not the haj pilgrimage with dlm Islam? What reward jg difference? Kasian dunk that miskin.apa God only pro-rich org kpd sj.
    -Mother sy pilgrimage BYR 30 million in 2004 diarab stay ditenda, mkn spasmodic, worship difficult, way far kemasjidil unlawful, difficulty sleeping anyway BYR 95 million sengsara.tp who participated with ONH plus sleep at the hotel, near the Mosque haram.makan disediain, The bed was comfortable, worship precedence, koq pay a visit to God dibeda2kan yach between sikaya and simiskin? .tlg explain to sy that this less

  11. @ menjawab SUPRATACUS

    A) Anda menganggap bahwa Yesus menerapkan akida-akidah Islam.. ANDA SALAH PAHAM!!!
    Jemaat Kristen mula-mula telah ada sejak pertengahan abad-1 yaitu dimulai sejak peristiwa kenaikan Yesus Kristus ke Surga. Sedangkan Islam baru muncul pada abad ke-7… Jadi mana mungkin kekeristenan mengadopsi akidah-akidah Islam, itu sama saja anda mengatakan bahwa Thomas Alpa Edison menciptakan teori lampu pijar dengan mengadopsi teori ilmuwan abad ke-21.

    B) Anda mengatakan bahwa kekeristenan mendukung pemakaian Jilbab, dan anda mengutip 1 Korintus 11:5-6, 10, 13
    Yang perlu anda ketahui adalah tutup kepala adalah pakaian kebudayaan Timur Tengah dan merupakan adat istiadat . Dan para perempuan Yahudi juga harus menutup kepalanya. Jadi jangan mengggangap bahwa tutup kepala (yg anda sebut JILBAB) adalah milik orang Muslim. Apabila ada orang Batak Muslim memakai ULOS anda jangan mengklaim bahwa ULOS adalah milik orang Muslim.

    1 KORINTUS 11: 13-16
    PASAL 13 Coba Saudara-saudara sendiri menimbang hal ini: Apakah baik seorang wanita berdoa kepada Allah di hadapan orang banyak, tanpa memakai tutup kepala?

    PASAL 14 Dari pengalaman umum, kalian sudah diajar bahwa kalau laki-laki berambut panjang, itu sesuatu yang kurang patut.

    PASAL 15 Tetapi bagi wanita, rambut diberikan kepadanya untuk menutupi kepalanya dan rambut panjang adalah kebanggaannya.

    PASAL 16 Nah, kalau ada yang mau bertengkar tentang masalah ini, satu-satunya yang saya dapat katakan ialah bahwa baik kita maupun jemaat-jemaat Allah lainnya, pada umumnya hanya mempunyai satu kebiasaan itu dalam jemaat; lain daripada itu tidak ada.

    Jemaat Kristen di Korintus adalah jemaat yg dikunjungi oleh Paulus pada akhir tahun 49. dan Jemaat Korintus sangat indentik dengan adat istiadat Yunani. Jadi pada saat itu jemaat Kristen di Korintus berasal dari orang-orang Yunani dan Yahudi. Pada pasal 16, kita dapat mengetahui bahwa jemaat korintus yg Yahudi dan Yunani memperdebatkan tentang pemakaian tutup kepala bagi kaum wanita dalam ibadah.
    Dalam adat istiadat Yahudi, adalah suatu kebanggaan apabila wanita harus menudungi kepalanya
    tetapi dalam adat istiadat Yunani (NON-YAHUDI) adalah suatu kebanggaan apabila wanita memiliki rambut yang panjang. Jadi pada saat itu, Paulus menghimbau bahwa para wanita Kristen NON-YAHUDI tidak diwajibkan memakai tutup kepala…. dan Paulus kembali menghimbau bahwa di mata Allah pria dan wanita memiliki persamaan hak dan kewajiban.

    MAAF YA PAK SUPRATACUS, DALAM MENAFSIRKAN ALKITAB ANDA HARUS TAHU KONTEKS BACAANNYA…..DAN JANGAN LUPA BERDOA DULU.

  12. @ SUPRATACUS

    Anda mengklaim bahwa nama Tuhannya agama anda adalah Allah dan kalau di Alkitab ada tertulis nama Allah berarti Yesus dan para pengikutnya menyembah Allah anda. Saya akan berikan sedikit informasi mengenai asal usul nama “Allah” …

    A) ALLAH DALAM BAHASA ARAB

    Apakah nama “Allah” itu milik agama Islam? If true, why has been used long before Islam was born? The name of God is there as old as the birth of the Arabic language. Jauh sebelumnya di Mesopotamia di mana rumpun Semitik bermula, orang-orang sudah mengenal nama El atau Il sebagai nama dewa tertinggi dalam pantheon Babilonia namun bagi sebagian besar keturunan Sem (di mana nama rumpun Semitik berasal) nama itu dimengerti sebagai Tuhan Yang Mahaesa Pencipta Langit dan Bumi.

    1) The name El progressed to the north and west into Ela or Elah and in the Aramaic-Syriac name was called Elah / Alaha and among the Hebrews called El / Elohim / Eloah.

    2) Nama Il berkembang ke wilayah timur dan selatan menjadi Ila atau Ilah dan di kalangan Arab disebut Ilah/Allah.

    The oldest records in the second millennium before the time of Jesus Christ said, the descendants of Abraham called Arab tribes, especially the Abrahamic and Ismaelliyah known as the Hanif (plural: Hunafa) the name of "God" since the development of the Arabic language. Encyclopedia of Islam mentions that: "The idea of ​​the One God who is called by the name of God, already known to the ancient Arabs ... other religious ..kelompok before Islam was Hunafa, a word which was originally shown at the ancient monotheistic beliefs that stem from the teachings of Abraham and Ishmael. "(pp. 50-51).

    Inscriptions reveal Lihyan rate-century records 5/6 BC (during Ezra) that the name 'God' has been used. Ada yang memberi stigmatisasi bahwa “Allah” adalah nama berhala Siria kuno namun kenyataannya inskripsi Lihyan sebagai pusat penyembahan “hlh” sehingga nama 'Allah' tidak tertuju untuk “dewa Siria”.

    B. ALLAH YANG ESA DAN KEKAL

    Be aware that the inscription in Arabic north (Sabean, Lihyan, Tamudic, Safaitic) showed that Lihyan is the center of worship "Allah" and there develops Arabic dialects which one is using the article "al", but also "ha" to show God that one. Winnet dalam penelitiannya atas inskripsi Lihyan menyebutkan bahwa pujian kepada Allah dalam inskripsi itu bersifat netral dan bisa diarahkan kepada sesembahan oknum mana saja tetapi teks Lihyan menunjukan adanya kata kunci “abtar” yang hanya ada dalam Al-Qur'an (QS.108) yang mengarah kepada 'Allah yang Esa dan Kekal'(QS.112). “Inskripsi Arab utara. ... Names of God first became common in Lihyan text. …Bukti ditemukannya nama Allah menunjukan bahwa Lihyan adalah pusat penyembahan Allah di Arab. "The Syrians emphasize the common noun" god "('a' minor) into proper name by adding the name of the element" a ": allaha =" the god "then became" God "when the Lihyan took over the name of self-Boze, the name was Arabized by eliminating the element "a" to become God. (FVWinnet, Allah before Islam, in the Muslim world, Vol.38,1938, hlm.245-248).

    Inscriptions century Lihyan 5/6 BC is in the northern Arabian derived from Nabataean Aramaic language that is located not far from Jerusalem called the Book of Ezra and Daniel were contemporaries that contains the name Aram "Alaha" addressed to "Elah Yisrael" / God of Israel. (Ezra 5:1; 6:14). Lagipula, pendahulu suku Lihyan adalah suku Dedan yang adalah keturunan Dedan cucu Ketura, isteri Abraham, tentu ada kaitannya dengan kaum Hanif. The same study noted Trimingham in his book Christianity Among the Arabs in Pre-Islamic Times, namely that the name of "God", has long been used among the tribes of Arabia, including Christians and came from "Alaha" Aramaic in the Book of Ezra addressed to "Elah Yisrael". Bahasa Arab diketahui berkembang dari nabati-Aram. (penekanan ditambahkan, Red). Thus, the allegation that "God" Lihyan god was the god of Syria VERY WRONG but it has been known that the name of (God) addressed to "Alaha" Aram which refers to "Elah Yisrael" (God of Israel).

    II. NAMA ALLAH DI KALANGAN ARAB KRISTEN

    Berbeda dengan anggapan bahwa orang Yahudi dan Kristen Arab semula menyebut Al-Ilah dan baru pada masa Islam mereka dipaksa menggunakan nama “Allah”. FAKTA SEJARAH menunjukan bahwa sejak awal orang Arab beragama Yahudi dan Kristen sudah menggunakan nama 'Allah' dalam Ibadat mereka. Nama 'Allah' digunakan di kalangan Arab beragama Yahudi dapat diketahui bahwa sebelum Islam lahir ada Imam Sinagoga di Medinah yang bernama Abdallah bin Saba, dan di kalangan Kristen penggunaan nama 'Allah' juga banyak digunakan. Christianity in the Arab region has already begun as early as the first century in which the Arabs had already heard the preaching of Jesus (Mark 3: 7-8) and on the day of Pentecost they were heard in Arabic (Acts. 2:11), and Paul visited the church of Arab Christians (Galatians 1: 17).

    In 244 an Arab Christian Philip the Arab became Emperor of Rome and at the Council of Nicaea (325) is present 6 Arab bishop of the Roman Empire region and 3 other bishops of the non-Roman Arab region. Hal ini menunjukan bahwa umat Kristen Arab dengan bahasa Arabnya sudah menyebar bahkan menduduki jabatan tinggi Kaisar Romawi dan Uskup jemaat Arab. Peter Pacerillo, Franciscan archaeologists find homes in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine from the 4th century (300 years before Islam) with the inscription "Bism Ellah al Rahman al Rahimi" (In the name of Allah the merciful and compassionate), whereas the Council of Ephesus (431) attended Bishop Arab named Abdellas (Abdullah, band. with "Wahab God" which was translated into Greek as "ouaballas"). Dalam fragmen pra-Islam yang ditemukan pada tahun 1901 di Damaskus ada teks LXX Mazmur 78 di mana “hotheos” (Elohim) diterjemahkan ke dalam bahasa Arab yang ditulis dengan aksara (abjad) Yunani sebagai “allau” (ayat 22, 31, 59), dalam inskripsi itu huruf “ha” Arab ditulis sebagai “upsilon” Yunani.

    Bambang Norsena SH are taking postgraduate courses in Arabic literature at Cairo for 2 years, in his book states that before the Islamic era, the use of the term 'Allah' in Christian lingkunagn can be seen from the number of inscriptions of the pre-Islamic period were found around wilayan Syria where the name Al -Ilah and God called.

    “Ada 2 inskripsi penting: pertama, inskripsi Zabad (tahun 512 / abad ke-6) yang diawali dengan rumusan “Bism al-Ilah” (Dengan nama Al-Ilah) yang kemudian disusul dengan nama-nama Kristen Syria dan kedua, inskripsi “Umm al-jimmal” (juga berasal dari abad ke-6 M) yang diawali dengan ucapan “Allahu ghafran” (Allah mengampuni).” (History of Allah, hlm 10).

    Inscription "Allahu ghafran" clearly depicted in the book Islamic caligraphy by Yasin Hamid Safadi (London: Thames and Hudson Ltd., 1978, hlm.6). Noorsena also mentioned that there Syriac Aramaic text that period in which the name of Allah Alaha translated into Arabic text: "Treatise fit at Tadbir al-Khalash li Word of Allah al-Mutajjasad (Syriac Language Arabic), works Mar Ya'qub al-Rahawi (James of Eddesa), this book begins a sentence: God ......, translate the original text that begins: Alaha .... (Syriac original text written in 578 AD) ". (The History of Allah, hlm.12).

    God already known in Arabic, he is one of the many god is worshiped in Mecca as the possibility of Almighty God and of course God the creator. It has long been recognized as "God," al-Ilah (the most likely origin of the word, another suggestion is "Alaha" Aram). (Brill, vol I hlm.406). “Sebagian besar beranggapan nama diri Allah ada asalnya (mushtakk, mankul), kontraksi al-ilah, dan menganggap ilah adalah tiga huruf akar kata.” (Brill, vol III hlm. 1093).

    “Allah merupakan suatu nama Hakikat atau kepercayaan yang bersifat mutlak. Agaknya kata Allah merupakan pengkhususan dari kata al-ilah, ….Nama Allah telah dikenal dan dipakai sebelum Alquran ada…, Kata itu tidak hanya khusus bagi Islam saja, melainkan ia juga merupakan nama yang, oleh umat Kristen yang berbahasa Arab dari gereja-gereja Timur, digunakan untuk memanggil Tuhan.” (Glasse, Ensiklopedia Islam, hlm.23).

    Selain dalam inskripsi dan nama, sejak awal Injil bahasa Arab juga menggunakan nama “Allah”. Alkitab Peshita dalam bahasa Aram ditulis pada abad ke-2 di mana El/Elohim/Eloah Ibrani ditulis “Elah/Alaha”. Seperti diketahui dari inskripsi Lihyan abad ke-5/6 dan sejarah bahasa bahwa “Alaha” Aram menurunkan “Allah” Arab Nabatea dan bahasa Arab.

    Dalam injil karya pernulis Gnostik “Apokrif Infancy Gospel of Thomas” (injil Tomas) pada abad ke-2, ada cerita mengenai Allah yang mengizinkan Yesus membuat mujizat burung dari tanah liat yang akhirnya dikutip dalam injil Anak-anak apokrif dalam bahasa Arab 'injilu't Tufuliyyah' dan kemudian diceritakan dalam Alquran (QS 5 110). Pada abad ke-3 Origenes menulis dalam introduksi Hexapla bahwa ia berkonsultasi dengan salinan bahasa lain termasuk Arab, paling tidak ini berarti bahwa pada abad ke-3 sudah ada fragmen Alkitab dalam bahasa Arab.

    Data Alquran sendiri mendukung adanya penggunaan nama 'Allah' sebelumnya dan menyebut bahwa pada masa Islam, di Gereja dan sinagoga sudah banyak disebut nama 'Allah', itu berarti bahwa pada masa pra-Islam nama 'Allah' sudah digunakan oleh umat Yahudi dan Kristen. Sebelum menjadi nabi bagi umat Muslim, Muhammad pernah berelasi dengan biarawan Nestorian (bidat Kristen) Waraqah ibn Nawfal yang adalah sepupu Khadijah (Isteri Muhammad).

    Dari kenyataan di atas kita mengetahui bahwa pada masa dahulu, apalagi pada masa bahasa lisan pratulis, penggunaan nama “Allah” terjadi sebagai derivasi Allaha Aram, padanan/kontraksi Al-Ilah, maupun sebagai nama yang berdiri sendiri. Tetapi menarik untuk disimak bahwa di Timur Tengah, penggunaan nama Allah oleh mereka yang beragama Yahudi, Kristen dan Islam yang berbahasa Arab dilakukan bersama tanpa masalah sejak awalnya.

    III. PENGGUNAAN NAMA ALLAH DALAM ALKITAB

    Tidak menutup kemungkinan bahwa di kalangan Arab Lihyan dan Arab Jahiliah pra-Islam, selain kaum Hanif/Hunafa yang menyembah Allah Monotheisme Abraham/Ibrahim, ada juga penyembah-penyembah berhala yang menyebut dewa mereka dengan sebutan 'allah' pula (“a”kecil). (penekanan ditambahkan, Red). Dalam sejarah Arab, masa jahiliah pra-islam lah yang disebut sebagai masa sinkretisme yang diimpor berhala asing, sehingga banyak yang menyembah berhala (termasuk dewa bulan “Hubal”). Hubal adalah berhala yang disembah oleh bangsa Arab sebelum zaman Islam. Hubal dilambangkan dengan bulan sabit. Namun, tampaknya pada masa Islam hadir, keyakinan monotheisme kaum Hanif itu dipulihkan kembali.

    “Gagasan tentang Tuhan Yang Esa yang disebut dengan nama 'Allah' sudah dikenal oleh bangsa Arab kuno. …Kelompok keagamaan lainnya sebelum Islam adalah Hunafa (tunggal: Hanif), sebuah kata yang pada asalnya ditujukan pada keyakinan monotheisme zaman kuno yang berpangkal pada ajaran Ibrahim dan Ismail. Menjelang abad ke-7 kesadaran agama Ibrahim dikalangan bangsa Arab ini telah hilang dan kedudukannya digantikan oleh sejumlah pemujaan berhala,…dalam 20 tahun seluruh tradisi Jahiliyyah tersebut terhapus oleh ajaran Tuhan yang terakhir, yakni Risalah Islam.” (Ensiklopedia Islam, hlm. 50-51).

    Di kisahkan bahwa Muhammad dengan para pengikutnya berperang menghancurkan para pemuja berhala dan menghancurkan patung-patung berhala mereka, salah satu diantaranya adalah Hubal. Sekalipun Muhammad menghancurkan segala patung berhala di tanah Arab namun agaknya ia tidak berniat untuk menghancurkan batu Hajar Aswad (batu hitam), yang merupakan batu yang disembah oleh salah satu suku di tanah Arab. Alquran menyebutkan bahwa Muhammad sangat menghormati batu itu dengan menciuminya.(paragraf ini ditambahkan,Red)

    Kemerosotan dan penyimpangan penggunaan kata 'Allah' tidak hanya terjadi di kalangan Arab, sebab dikalangan Israel pun kemerosotan yang sama juga terjadi. “Elohim” di samping untuk menyebut “Pencinta langit dan bumi” (Kejadian 1:1) juga digunakan untuk menyebut dewa “berhala anak lembu” (Keluaran 32: 1.4) dan bahkan juga dirayakan sebagai Yahweh (Keluaran 32:4). Penyimpangan penyembahan bangsa Israel ini mendatangkan murka Yahweh sehingga bangsa Israel menerima hukuman atas dosa besar yang telah diperbuatnya.

    Jadi disini kita melihat bahwa yang menjadi masalah bukan nama “Elohim/Allah” itu sendiri, melainkan apa kandungan akidah/pengajaran dibalik nama itu yang secara berbeda-beda diajarkan dalam Kitab Suci masing-masing agama. Kebenaran sejarah tidak dapat diubah dan perlu disadari bahwa nama “Ilah/Allah” (Arab) memiliki asal mula yang sama (cognate) dengan El/Elohim/Eloah (Ibrani) dan Elah/Alaha (Aram) ataupun El/Il Semitik (Mesopotamia) yang dipercayai beberapa agama sebagai dewa, tuhan tertinggi tetapi juga digunakan sebagai “Tuhan Yang Maha Esa Pencipta langit dan bumi”.

    Perlu di sadari bahwa sekalipun agama Yahudi (Tanakh), Kristen (PL+PB) dan Islam (Alquran) dalam bahasa Arab menggunakan nama Allah yang sama dan menyebutnya sebagai “Tuhan Monotheisme Abraham/Ibrahim” ketiganya mempercayai pengajaran (doktrin/akidah) yang berbeda sesuai Kitab Suci masing-masing. Kerancuan terjadi karena mencampuradukkan nama “Allah” sebagai nama sesembahan semitik/abrahamik dalam bahasa Arab dan pengajaran (doktrin) mengenai Allah yang sama itu. Karena itu, kalau mau membandingkan adalah: antara Allah Arab Kristen disbanding Allah Arab Islam. Hal ini agar tidak terjadi kesalah pahaman dan kerancuan.

    Coba kita simak wejangan Dr Olaf Schuman, teoloh Kristen Jerman yang fasih berbahasa Arab yang selama 3 tahun belajar dan mengajar di Universitas Al-Ashar di Kairo: “Memang tidak dapat disangkal adanya suatu masalah. Namun, yang menjadi masalah adalah soal dogmatika atau akidah, sebab tiga agama itu (Yudaisme, Kristen, Islam) mempunyai faham dogmatis yang berbeda mengenai Allah yang sama, baik hakikatnya maupun pula mengenai cara penyataan dan tindakan-tindakannya.” (Keluar dari Benteng-Benteng Pertahanan, hlm.177).

    A. ALKITAB BAHASA ARAB

    Sejak awal, nama Allah terus digunakan dalam Alkitab bahasa Arab, termasuk delapan versi yang sekarang digunakan oleh sekitar 29 juta umat Kristen Arab di seluruh dunia. Pada tahun 1671, gereja Katolik Roma menerjemahkan Alkitab ke dalam bahasa Arab di Roma dan terjemahan lengkap terbit tahun 1880, namun yang lebih populer dikalangan Protestan dan gereja Ortodok adalah “Arabic Bible” (Van Dijke, 1865) yang diterbitkan di Beirut. Catholic Translation of the Bible yang diterbitkan tahun 1880 kemudian direvisi pada tahun 1988. New Translation of the Arabic Bible (1988) yang disebut 'Book of Life, an interpretative translation' (Kitab Al Hayat, tarjama tafsiria) kemudian menjadi 'New Arabic Version' (1992), dan pada tahun yang sama terbit juga 'Today Arabic Version' (Good News).

    Dalam hubungan dengan kaum Muslim, pada tahun 1980-an, di Mesir ada kalangan Kristen yang menerbitkan Perjanjian Baru untuk dibaca oleh kalangan Muslim yang disebut 'The Noble Gospel' (Al-Injil Al-Syarif, 1990) dan seluruh Alkitab pada tahun 1999. Ada usaha menarik dari penulis Siria-Arab Mashaz Mallouhi (2008) yang mengumpulkan para pakar Arab Islam dan Kristen untuk duduk bersama membuat terjemahan Kitab Injil dan Para Rasul dengan nama 'The True Meaning of the Gospel of Chirst' ke dalam bahasa Arab modern yang ditujukkan kepada orang Arab Kristen ataupun Arab Islam yang sekaligus dimaksudkan sebagai pelajaran sejarah sastra Arab dengan membahas terminology bahasa Arab Alkitab yang sekarang sudah tidak umum digunakan dalam bahasa Arab modern. Semua versi Alkitab Arab hanya mengenal satu istilah untuk Tuhan, yaitu “Allah” (disamping Ar-Rabb untuk menyebut Adonai yang tertuju YHWH/Yahweh).

    Di Indonesia sejak masuknya agama Islam (abad ke-13) dan Kristen (abad ke-16), nama Allah sudah terserap dalam bahasa Melayu dan kemudian masuk kosa-kata bahasa Indonesia, dan sudah digunakan sedini ditulisnya terjemahan Alkitab Melayu pada tahun 1629 sampai terjemahan Alkitab Indonesia (LAI). Sekalipun Indonesia memiliki populasi Islam terbesar di dunia selama ini tidak ada yang mempersoalkan penggunaan nama “Allah” itu, karena para pakar dan ulama Islam pada umumnya mengerti bahwa nama Allah itu digunakan bersama dalam agama Yahudi, Kristen dan Islam kecuali dipersoalkan oleh sekelompok kecil fundamentalis tertentu akhir-akhir ini. Di Malaysia, usaha penerjemahan Alkitab ke dalam bahasa Melayu (BM) dimulai pada tahun 1974. Perjanjian Baru diterbitkan pada tahun 1976 dan Perjanjian Lama pada tahun 1981. Alkitab bahasa Melayu (BM) lengkap diterbitkan pada tahun 1987 oleh The Bible Society of Singapore, Malaysia and Brunei. Pada tahun 1990, dimulai penerjemahan ke bahasa Melayu sehari-hari dan pada tahun 1996 terbit Alkitab Berita Baik yang diterbitkan oleh The Bible Society of Malaysia. Semua Alkitab bahasa Melayu menulis nama “Allah”.

    Sumber: Tulisan ketua Yabina Ministry di surat kabar Suara Pembaruan hal. 13, edisi Sabtu tanggal 6, 13 dan 20 Februari 2010.

  13. EXCERPT FROM BELOW IN THE STORY

    Ada perbedaan besar antara melihat langsung sumbernya sendiri dan bergantung pada orang untuk mengatakan apa yang sumber itu katakan. I believe that is why Muslims do not understand Jesus and Christians and Christians do not understand Muhammad.

    .MARI KITA BUKTIKAN APAKAH CERITA DI ATAS BENAR ;

    1.( ORANG MUSLIM MENYEMBAH ALLAH SEPERTI APA YANG ISA SEMBAH )
    (Paragraph and explanation see post Supratacus top)

    Response:
    Tak masalah anda mau menyembah Isa/Yesus atau tidak. Tapi jangan samakan Allah yang dikabarkan Yesus dengan allah yang diajarkan Muhammad. Untuk lebih jelasnya silahkan Download & baca buku di atas. Atau baca sungguh Al-Quran cari ayat2 yang menunjukkan sifat2 allah Muhammad & bandingkan dengan Allah yang ada di Injil.

    MUSLIM PEOPLE DO NOT EAT PORK ISA AS IS ALSO NOT nDo PIG
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    Response:
    Soal haramnya makanan tertentu adalah budaya & aturan agama Yahudi (ayat aturan yang anda ambil pun dari Kitab Imamat yang termasuk Taurat Yahudi). Yesus & Petrus adalah orang Yahudi, karenanya sudah tentu terbiasa dengan ajaran2 Yahudi.
    Btw, tentang Petrus anda hanya mengutip 1 ayat saja, seharusnya keseluruhan kisahnya adalah

    (Kisah Para Rasul 10 : 11-16)
    (11) Tampak olehnya langit terbuka dan turunlah suatu benda berbentuk kain lebar yang bergantung pada keempat sudutnya, yang diturunkan ke tanah. (12) Di dalamnya terdapat pelbagai jenis binatang berkaki empat, binatang menjalar dan burung. (13) Kedengaranlah olehnya suatu suara yang berkata: “Bangunlah, hai Petrus, sembelihlah dan makanlah!” (14) Tetapi Petrus menjawab: “Tidak, Tuhan, tidak, sebab aku belum pernah makan sesuatu yang haram dan yang tidak tahir.” (15) Kedengaran pula untuk kedua kalinya suara yang berkata kepadanya: “Apa yang dinyatakan halal oleh Allah, tidak boleh engkau nyatakan haram.” (16) Hal ini terjadi sampai tiga kali dan segera sesudah itu terangkatlah benda itu ke langit.

    Jadi sudah lebih jelas sekarang soal haram ato tidak? Anda ambil ayat dari kisah yang justru menghalalkan makanan2 yang haram. Lain kali baca lebih teliti yah :)

    2.ORANG ISLAM SUNAT : ISA JUGA SUNAT
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    Response:
    Soal sunat silahkan cari di Perjanjian Baru (masuk aja ke Alkitab online trus cari kata “sunat” {Roma Bab 2,3 & 4) Kalo anda serius ingin tahu tentu anda mau mencari. Anda akan menemukan bahwa sunat atau tidak sunat itu tidak terlalu penting. Ini seirama dengan Ajaran2 Yesus yang terkadang melanggar aturan2 Yahudi & lebih mengutamakan pada sikap hati manusia.

    3. ISLAM NOT DRINK ALCOHOL DRINKING ISA ALSO NOT ALKOHOK
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    Response:
    Ayat yg anda ambil adalah dari Perjanjian Lama & Surat Rasul. Kalo anda cari-cari di Injil akan anda temukan Yohanes 2:1-11 Dalam perkawinan di Kana Yesus mengubah air menjadi anggur.
    Lihat juga Matius 11:19 “Kemudian Anak Manusia datang, Ia makan dan minum, dan mereka berkata: Lihatlah, Ia seorang pelahap dan peminum, sahabat pemungut cukai dan orang berdosa. Tetapi hikmat Allah dibenarkan oleh perbuatannya.” Yesus tidak mencari pembenaran/dukungan orang —bandingkan dengan Muhammad yang susah payah mencari sekutu dari kaum pagan & mencari pembenaran & dukungan Yahudi di Medinah— tapi bersikap sesuai Hikmat Allah yang ada dalam diriNya.
    Soal orang cabul, lapar uang, penyembah berhala, pemfitnah, pemabuk atau penipu (notabene: orang berdosa) silahkan lihat Matius 9: 10-13 Dimana Yesus makan bersama orang berdosa, dan menyatakan bahwa dirinya diutus terutama kepada orang2 berdosa.

    DAN MASIH BANYAK LAGI PASALNYA 2 TENANG NARKOBA

    ISLAM fond YATIMPIATU ISA ALSO SO
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    ISLAM JESUS ​​VERSION

    Here is the essence of Jesus according to Islam is taken in the Bible:
    ISLAM JESUS ​​VERSION

    Here is the essence of Jesus according to Islam is taken in the Bible:

    1. Yesus mengajarkan keesaan Allah
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    Response:
    Dalam berbagai ayat dalam Injil kita menemukan dualisme, ada sikap&kata2 yang menunjukkan Yesus sebagai manusia juga ada yang menunjukkan KeAllahanNya. Peristiwa Pencobaan oleh Iblis setelah puasa 40 hari tersebut menurut saya memang termasuk salah satu peristiwa yang menunjukkan kemanusiaannya. Peristiwa lain serupa adalah saat di kayu salib Dia berseru “Eloi, Eloi lama sabakhtani!”
    Untuk peristiwa yang menunjukkan keAllahanNya cari sendiri yah biar ada usaha :p
    Yang lain kalo ada yg mau nyumbang silahkan :)

    2. Jesus claimed prophets and apostles
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    Response:
    Yesus sebagai manusia mungkin layak disejajarkan dengan Nabi/Rasul (ada gelar yang lebih tinggi gak ya : D ). Tapi dalam kesatuanNya dengan Bapa, kita tidak bisa tidak melainkan menyembahNya.
    Silahkan cari sendiri kata-kata Yesus yang mengungkapkan hal itu. (Coba lihat Yohanes 10:30)

    3. Jesus taught Syahadatain (Islamic creed)
    Yohanes 17:3: “Inilah hidup yang kekal itu, yaitu, bahwa mereka mengenal Engkau, satu-satunya Allah yang benar dan mengenal Yesus Kristus yang telah engkau utus.”

    Explanation: Jesus claimed to be honest and plain, that the only true god is Allah., And he was only a messenger of God. Ini berarti Yesus mengajarkan dua kalimat syahadat

    Response:
    Menurut saya mengutus di sini lebih kepada mengirimkan Yesus yang tadinya menyatu dengan Bapa di surga agar datang kepada kita di dunia. Kalo tidak salah dalam Al-Quran juga disebutkan Isa sebagai Ruhullah & Kalamullah yang artinya Roh Allah & Firman Allah.

    4. Yesus disunat (dikhitan)
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    Response:
    Soal sunat lihat tanggapan yang sudah saya sampaikan di atas. Btw sudahkah hati anda disunat, ataukah hanya kelamin anda? :)

    5. Jesus say Insha Allah (if Allah wills)
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    Response:
    Itu kalimat yg baik, asal jangan dijadikan untuk menutupi kelemahan & ketidakmampuan kita saja :)

    6. Yesus dikafani ketika meninggal dunia
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    Response:
    Lagi2 tentang aturan. Seperti yg sudah saya sampaikan Yesus tak terlalu mementingkan aturan mau dikafani, dipakekan jas atau dibiarin telanjang; mau dikubur, dibakar ato diumpankan ke ikan itu tidak terlalu penting buat Yesus.
    Daripada meributkan aturan penguburan akan lebih baik kalo anda bertanya pada diri sendiri “Apakah saya akan selamat setelah saya mati???”

    7. Yesus menyuruh umatnya yang perempuan memakai jilbab
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    Response:
    Lagi2 aturan. Yesus tidak banyak mewariskan aturan. Ayat yang anda ambil adalah surat rasul kepada umat (bukan kata2 Yesus). Aturan memang diperlukan tetapi Yesus melihat yg lebih penting/terpenting.

    Matius 23:23
    “Celakalah kamu, hai ahli-ahli Taurat dan orang-orang Farisi, hai kamu orang-orang munafik, sebab persepuluhan dari selasih, adas manis dan jintan kamu bayar, tetapi yang terpenting dalam hukum Taurat kamu abaikan, yaitu: keadilan dan belas kasihan dan kesetiaan. Yang satu harus dilakukan dan yang lain jangan diabaikan.”

    Hijab matter if I may I say that it was ordered Muhammad to wanita2nya (after she had a lot of women around him) to avoid pengikut2 male lust. About it look at what Jesus said:

    Matthew 5:28
    But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    So if Jesus was physically forced to give orders, maybe he'll have the laki2 make-blinders : D

    8. Jesus pray facing the Qibla (direction of the Kaaba)
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    Response:
    Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to live in the hearts of his people. That's where we are now God's temple. No matter where the face, would she flips upside down may also. The important thing you appear before God in your heart.
    Btw, have you ever heard the story of a Sufi Muslim reprimanded because force is not polite to sleep with feet facing the Kaaba (imagine wrote stories location near the Kaaba). then he said "Have a Muslim brother to shift my feet so it no longer refers to Him the Most There." And it was confusion because Muslims do not find a place anywhere in the world that there is no God there.
    The existence of God is related to the attitude of the heart is not a place or a physical building.

    9. Jesus did not eat pork
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    Please see my response of the unclean animals that already exist at the top. As an additional matter of illicit / unclean, thus the words of Jesus:

    Matthew 15:11
    (11) "Hear and understand: not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man."

    The definition of "out of the mouth" not spit or vomit but kata2 dirty, insults, trickery, lies lies and the like.
    Btw, the same gospel chapter you can read Jesus condemned Ahli2 Torah who prefers the rules of the liver.

    Matthew 15: 1-9 (7-9 aja let me take a rest save more money you can find and read for yourself)
    (7) "O ye hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you: (8) These people honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. (9) Useless they serve me, while they are teaching is teaching human command. "

    You feel tersindir not : D

    10. Jesus did not drink wine or other liquor

    Luke 1:15: "Before he would be great in the sight of the Lord, and he will not drink wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb."

    Wah3x .... you take one verse. The verse is a prophecy about John the Baptist instead of Jesus. Try to read the chapter more carefully.

    Btw Look kata2 Jesus in these verses:

    Matthew 11: 16-19
    (16) To what can I compare this generation? They are like children sitting in the marketplace and shouted to his friends: (17) We played the flute for you, but you did not dance, we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn. (18) For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon. (19) Then the Son of Man comes, He is eating and drinking, and they say: Behold, He is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of publicans and sinners. But God's wisdom is justified by his actions. "

    Orang2 at the time of Jesus was to see Jesus as a glutton, drink and friend of sinners.

    Oh yes, already read John 2: 1-11?
    (The story of the wedding at Cana, where Jesus turned water into wine)
    If Jesus hate wine where would He repot2 use his divine power to make such a miracle.

    REASON Refuted

    There was a Christian when asked why the worship of Jesus is as following:

    1. Jesus is the son of God

    2. Jesus was born without mixing with men

    3. Jesus knew things unseen

    4. Jesus united with God

    5. Jesus was pure from sin

    6. Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit

    Actually the opinions of the above can be broken only by the evidence in the Bible. The following are Bible verses that reject the opinions of the above:

    Jesus is the Son of God

    There are many verses that explain, that Jesus was not the son of God. Such evidence include:

    1) "Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary who gave birth to Jesus who is called Christ." Matthew 1: 6 (The begotten certainly not God)

    2) "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn son." Exodus 4:22 (The Meaning of God's children is just a mere allusion to his loved ones)

    3) "I am the father of Israel, and that Afraim firstborn son." Jeremiah 31: 9 (According to the Bible, God has many children)

    Jesus Born Without mixing with men

    Here is proof, that it was not Jesus who was born without mixing with men.

    1) "For Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High; he went out to meet Abraham when Abraham came back and beat the kings and blessed him. Abraham also give him a tenth of everything. According to the meaning of the name Melchizedek is is first king of righteousness, and also king of Salem, which is king of peace. Without father, without mother, without genealogy, without beginning and the next day his life is ending, and because he made the same as the Son of God, he remains a priest forever. I Hebrews 7: 1,2,3 (Melchizedek is greater than Jesus).

    2) Adam was born without mixing between men and women (Jesus had a mother, Mary).

    Response:
    It's okay if you do not acknowledge that Jesus is called the Son of God because of oneness with the Father.
    But at least you do not block the God who wants to make all mankind as His children.

    NB: It may be true if someone said that the soul is the soul anak2 orang2 Christian God who calls God as Father, and the soul of Islam is the soul that invokes God as a servant of the Lord. (If I may add the soul was always jealous of anak2nya)

    Jesus Knowing Things Unseen
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    Response:
    Maybe you are right about the apocalypse. Staying we wait wrote when God the Father sent the Son to come down to earth as the Mahdi (you believe it right ???)
    Btw, In the Quran problem Jin and Devil classified to hal2 unseen, berkali2 narrated in the Gospel of Jesus casting out demons. In accordance Koran would be dong is said to be understood hal2 occult.
    Lg btw, never not exorcise ato Muhammad least ngobati the korengan aja? no such history ga?

    Jesus Unity with God

    1) "About the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice: 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?', My God, my God why have you forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46 (When will the cross, God turns split [left] with Jesus)

    Response:
    Maybe once you properly. At that time humanity was Jesus who said it. But three days after that to work in the divine; RESURRECTION OF NATURAL DEATH.

    Holy Jesus of Sin
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    Response:
    Wah3x great once you get to know well the sinner or not. Does not matter that only God knows?
    As I have been told on Jesus is a friend of sinners. (Like me because I am a sinful man ....)
    And look at this:

    Matthew 9: 2-7
    (2) So it is people brought to him a paralytic lying on a bed. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic: "Believe me, my son, your sins are forgiven." (3) Then some of the experts in the law to themselves, "This man is blaspheming." (4) But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, and said: "Why do you think evil in your hearts? (5) Which is easier, to say, Thy sins are forgiven, 'or to say, Arise, and walk? (6) But that ye may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins "-then He said to the paralytic -" Get up, take your mat and go home! "(7) And he arose and went home.

    Do you think it possible that Jesus The Sinner (as you say), forgive the sins of others ??? (Like citrus orange eat well : D )
    And it turns out he's been doing and give evidence of His power in a miracle (read again the story above). Speak your language (which separates God from Jesus) if God deny the Power of Jesus' forgiveness of sins is certainly God will cancel / reject the miracle.

    Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit

    According to the Bible, Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. However, it was not only Jesus who is filled with the Holy Spirit, even ordinary people were filled with the Holy Spirit:

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    Response:
    You're absolutely right, after Jesus ascended to heaven. He sent the Holy Spirit to fill the heart and soul of each of His people. Spirit and matter exist or not in our hearts, our lives do not allow Him to present what :)

    Jesus had a miracle can raise the dead, cure blindness and leprosy
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    Response:
    Miracles did not specifically belong to Jesus. Miracles can be done by those who live in the Spirit of God in his heart. If you allow God dwells within you, you can do it. As disciples of Jesus who went about doing miracles.

    But the greatest miracle of Jesus was not like that you have mentioned. Greatest miracle is RISE OF DEATH (Beating Death). If you ask for a miracle to prove to the divine; that's what you get. Help you find where the Prophet who can do it. Most pol miracle Nabi2 just live forever ....

    JADI ISLAM LEBIH MENGENAL ALMASI ISA PUTRA MARYAM DI BANDING ANDA

    Response:
    Oh maaf sekali pernyataan itu sama sekali tidak benar. Pengertian Islam tentang Yesus berbeda dari apa yang sesungguhnya. Dan Anda tidak mengerti sama sekali tentang Yesus. Saya sarankan anda membaca kembali Injil dengan seutuhnya. Dan jangan lupa berdoa dulu agar dikaruniai pengertian yang benar.

    ISLAM MELAKUKAN APA YANG ISA LAKUKAN

    Response:
    Sekali lagi maaf itu tidak benar. Kalo soal aturan2 duniawi seperti yang telah anda sampaikan mungkin anda benar. Tapi justru yang terpenting seperti yang disampaikan Yesus, tidak ada dalam Islam.

    Example:
    Islam memerintahkan balas dendam (apa yah istilahnya dalam Islam, saya lupa :p). Itulah salah satu yang mendasari ideologi para teroris Muslim.

    Ini bertentangan dengan perintah Yesus:

    Matius5:39
    (39) Tetapi Aku berkata kepadamu: Janganlah kamu melawan orang yang berbuat jahat kepadamu, melainkan siapapun yang menampar pipi kananmu, berilah juga kepadanya pipi kirimu.

    Contoh2 lain silahkan cari sendiri yah, dah capek nih. Ato mungkin teman2 yang lain bisa menambahkan.

    Maaf kalo ada salah2 kata

    Peace & LOVE 2 all

  14. Saya mau bertanya nih… Buat smuanya aja deh..

    Actually, the Koran was the decline in the form of what? in paper form or forms of revelation to the prophet who then called by the prophet? Koq sampai ada perintah untuk baca segala? brarti awal turunnya dalam bentuk tulisan donk? bener gak sih?

    As far as I klo prophets existing ones, all in the form of vision or revelation directly told by God to the prophet, then written into a new written media (can be rocks, leaves, paper, etc.) ....

    whether all the verses of the Koran that down is always in written form? klo tidak, kenapa terjadi inkonsistensi spt demikian?

    Bukankah akan lebih mudah bagi Allah untuk menurunkan wahyu-Nya dari awal dalam bentuk penglihatan kepada nabi tsb, kmudian nabi tersebut baru memberitakan kepada orang-orang lain dan kemudian orang yang mendengar itu yang menuliskan apa yang dikatakan nabi?

    Somewhat confusing too anyway ....

    Thx ...

  15. Muhammad behavior of married dozens of times, there is even a controversial marriage (opposed) with the Qur'an which was revealed by Allah at that point so down again a special revelation of the Qur'an to Muhammad privileges of marriage ... Then Statement of Muslims say that Muhammad had many wife due to help and uplift women who are married ... And there are some among Muhammad married his wife in a very depressed state (in a prisoner of war), or previously have had a legitimate husband, then a new Quranic verse then muhammad can marry those with legitimate ....

    Trus klo dikatakan lagi, poligami lebih baik dari pada berbuat zinah… menurut saya muhammad juga sering bersetubuh dengan budak-budak yang dimilikinya, apakah ini juga bukan tindakan tercemar dan zinah?

    -Apakah orang-orang terlalu takut untuk mengkritik muhammad karena muhammad adalah seorang nabi?

    -whether they are afraid to be intimidated by Muhammad and pengikut2nya? (Because we all know that in defiance of the prophet Qur'an that can be regarded as infidels).

    -Is the Koran can be used as a justification on the crimes (murder and plunder) conducted if Muhammad and his followers (if you can, it is very dangerous)? whereas only muhammad themselves often violate the Quranic verse was first released and then emerging exception for him (or before he has violated, then dropped paragraph exception, so he did not say breaking) ...

    I think the system and fall verses of the Koran that one part of it will be very beneficial Muhammad and his followers to achieve their own interests. Karena jika ada ayat-ayat pengganti di dalam Alquran, maka Alquran dapat disamakan dengan UU yang ada di Indonesia yang seringkali menggunakan sistem trial & error untuk menemukan hal yang lebih baik. Jika UU yang ini tidak baik atau ada yang kurang maka dapat direvisi sewaktu-waktu.

    Is fasting verses in the Qur'an that was revealed at the beginning they do fasting? whether reappear verses about fasting that enhance the preceding paragraphs? misal : seperti Sangsi untuk hubungan sex pada siang hari bulan puasa adalah yang bersangkutan harus berpuasa 40 hari secara berturut-turut. if he is not able to then he had to feed the poor fakjir for 40 days Are the sanctions had been there since the beginning of fasting is set in the Koran?

    Menurut saya Alquran dapat sangat disanksikan kebenarannya…. apalagi jika ada ayat yang mengatakan (mengutip dari perkataan anda):
    "Muhammad has been forgiven by Allah, mistakes have not been well done"
    Did you ever questioned your heart about the truth of this verse?

    Menurut saya Allah telah ceroboh telah memberikan muhammad, Alquran dengan ayat yang turun sepenggal-sepengal, dan kecerobohan yang terbesar adalah menurunkan sebuah ayat yang sangat memberikan kesempatan yang sangat besar untuk muhammad mempersalahgunakan kepercayaan itu dengan ayat yang sangat ampuh yaitu “MUhammad telah diampuni oleh Allah swt, kesalahan yang sudah maupun yang belum diperbuatnya” Artinya semua dosa dan kesalahan muhammad akan diampuni, apapun itu baik sekarang maupun yang akan datang…

    Dengan adanya ayat itu muhammad bisa saja selama ini telah banyak membuat ayat-ayat Alquran demi kepentingannya sendiri, mulai membenarkan tindakannya yang kejam tehadap orang-orang yang dianggap kafir (padahal di dalamnya juga terdapat orang ahli2 kitab, tapi masih saja orang2 itu disebut kafir). Have you ever wondered "whether there are verses of the Koran that emerged from the mind of Muhammad himself?" Because God has given full control of the quran muhammad (of course with the super-powered verse)? Why God is taking care of domestic life and his messenger satisfaction with the sacred texts? Is not it been said that the Quranic verse that for all humans (including Muhammad), why appear exception to muhammad (which in the case just ordinary people)?

    Apakah anda juga pernah bertanya kenapa ayat Alqura tidak berhenti diturunkan selama muhammad masih hidup (maksudnya knpa koq tidak berhenti sebelum 10/5/3/dsb tahun muhammad meninggal)? kenapa tidak diturunkan seluruh ayat-ayat untuk mengatur sesuatu, knpa selalu ada ayat lain yang mengikuti? it can make people who live in that era confused with changing regulations (as rich in our country's laws).

    Have you ever like that? muhammad = Koran?

    Thank you ....

    Sorry to connect my comments above ...

    The bottom line in my opinion, after the emergence of the verse, "Muhammad has been forgiven by Allah, errors that have not been well done", God will not be able to prevent Muhammad to use the Koran as a weapon to achieve his personal goals and interests sandiri. Karena dosa apapun yang dilakukan muhammad (termasuk menggunakan Alquran sebagai jalan pentas mencapi tujuannya) pasti akan diampuni oleh Allah (ditambah lagi di dalam Alquran dikatakan bahwa Allah tidak pernah mengingkari janji atau sumpahnya)…. This is a great opportunity for Muhammad to ACT AS GOD through the Koran, because no one will know if there is a Quranic verse which is made by Muhammad, although Allah knows, GOD CAN NOT DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MUHAMMAD FORGIVE SINS ...

    It is so can cause the validity of the Qur'an as a revelation from God questionable ... Because we never know the hearts of men including Muhammad ... If God has definitely omniscient, and surely God will not likely issue a verse like that, because that would be giving the opportunity to the human (Muhammad) to recognize the results of his mind as the Word of God ... If God has definitely omniscient, is certain verses of the Qur'an will be deployed all at the same time (without any revision clause replacement), so there should be no waiting that long to wait for the Qur'an was perfect ...

    Thx ...

  16. If there are people who argue that there can be only inventions of Muhammad, because in the Qur'an contained a very high knowledge in it (though not detailed, and sometimes somewhat forced). It is true that there may be in the Qur'an or the basic concept can be regarded as a layman understanding of the basic laws of nature. But it does not cover the POSSIBILITY that the Koran as written by Muhammad, as Muhammad did not live in this world alone.

    Mau komentar tentang Muhammad sebagai orang buta huruf yang dianggap bodoh dulu :

    Illiteracy may occur because the person has never experienced formal education on reading.

    Buta huruf = bodoh?

    This statement can be said to be true for today because today's era of high all the science that can only be obtained in writing (reading ability is required).

    But for the past, it's not necessarily true ... the ancient knowledge transfer can be done by means of oral and direct face to face. Because the people who have extensive knowledge is the most widely interact with others, listening to stories of others. Sedangkan Muhammad pada awalnya adalah seorang pedagang, tentu ia memiliki banyak wawasan dan teman.

    If anyone says it is unlikely Muhammad plucks crita prophets of books that exist beforehand because Muhammad could not read, it is too sloppy, because Muhammad still have good hearing, of course, he could hear the story of a person, for example, Any merchant of Jewish land, Egypt or other tempat2 ...

    Kalau misalnya ada yang mengatakan bahwa tidak mungkin klo Alquran itu karangan Muhammad atau manusia pada jaman itu, karena di dalamnya terkandung ilmu pengetahuan yang sangat tinggi yang bahkan sampai saat ini belum ada.
    Very careless if we say that the technology was not advanced ancient times, or the antiquity it does not know anything. Pada jaman dahulu, dapat kita lihat Mesir, memiliki peradaban yang sangat maju pada jamannya, dapat membangun Piramida yang bahkan untuk ukuran teknologi jaman sekarang masih dibilang cukup sulit. Akan tetapi bangsa Mesir dapat melakukannya dengan teknologi yang mereka miliki pada jaman itu.
    And do not think also if existing science in antiquity it is still there. Many science is lost because it is not recorded as delivered orally, or exclusively on the group / particular nation so that when the nation was destroyed no forward it to others. In contrast with today's technology and science open to the public, so that the possibility of loss is very small. So now there is a group of scientists who were surprised by the discovery of a place that is believed to be used as nuclear reactor thousands of years ago.

    Muhammad tentunya tidak hidup sendiri ia banyak berinteraksi dengan orang, mendengar, tentunya ia akan mampu menulis Alquran yang berisi dasar-dasar ilmu alam seperti saat ini.

    Very unwise to measure the validity of the holy book of knowledge contained therein. Because if there is a scripture that was made at this time will certainly contain more science.

    Apakah pernah mendengar kisah tentang Muhammad diberi perintah Baca! oleh malaikat Jibril? told to read whether Muhammad at that time? Is not the Qur'an descended in the form of revelation and then rewritten by the scribe of Muhammad? kenapa terjadi keanehan seperti itu? Kemana kitab yang disuruh baca oleh malaikat jibril itu? Kitab apakah itu? whether the Koran? atau kitab yang lain? (Maybe not the Koran, because all the contents of the Qur'an is the word of God that he came out of the mouth of Muhammad)

    Terima kasih, semoga dapat menjadi renungan….

  17. “Trus klo dikatakan lagi, poligami lebih baik dari pada berbuat zinah… menurut saya muhammad juga sering bersetubuh dengan budak-budak yang dimilikinya, apakah ini juga bukan tindakan tercemar dan zinah?”

    Laknat! kebenaran yang dipaksakan.. ckckk.. naudzubila min dzalik Rasulullah melakukan hal itu.. sungguh2 isapan jempol belaka dari para kafir. Lelah mencari celah yang tak ketemu2 akhirnya mengarangnya… Sungguh2 ironi wahai kafir..

    Bagimu agamamu, bagiku agamaku.. jadi kalo blm jadi orang yang cukup baik bagi agamu, jangan mengajak penganut lain untuk berbuat menyimpang juga… Lebih baik anda mungkin menggali sendiri kebusukan2 apa yang anda percayai.

    Maha benar Allah dengan segala firmannya.

  18. @Hamba Allah:
    Itu bukan ispan jempol belaka, coba baca buku2 yang ada di website ini, kemudian cocokan dengan kebenaran dengan sumber yang ada, maka anda juga akan dapat menganalisa sendiri kebenaran pernyataan saya…

    Silakan diteliti lagi…

    Terima kasih…

  19. Soal poligami, saya rasa itu hanya alasan saja. Alasannya supaya tidak berzinah, saya rasa adalah alasan yang dibuat2 saja. Hanya karena pikiran sudah penuh dengan hal yang mesum, sehingga ga tahan dan takut dibilang berzinah, jadi kawin lagi. Dengan mengingini wanita lain selain istri aja sudah zinah. Kasihan bgt tuh istri.
    Trus, bisa lagi pake alasan mau menolong wanita miskin ataupun anak dibawah umur. Wah ini hanya alasan supaya bisa kawin lagi.
    Emangnya kalo mau tolong wanita, janda maupun anak kecil hrs dgn kawin ya? Kan bisa dgn dijadikan saudara ataupun anak angkatkan, bukannya menginginkan untuk dikawinin. Kawin, kawin lagi.
    Dengan mengingini wanita lain selain istri aja sudah zinah. Kasihan bgt tuh istri.

  20. @Andryi
    u wrote : (menanggapi Supratacus)

    Mas, anda terlalu picik jika berkata demikian….
    Anda tau??? Memakai jilbab, tidak makan babi, dsb spt yg anda katakan adalah adat dari orang2 Yahudi dan orang2 Persia dan Arab yang telah ada dari dulu. Tradisi orang2 ARAB. Yesus lahir sebelum islam ada.
    Anda jgn sok tau. Jgn sok ngomong. Anda sama aja menebar FITNAH….

    Ayat Alkitab jgn diambil sepotong2. Akan berbeda makna dan artinya.

    Jgn hanya mengambil kesimpulan dari pemandangan anda sendiri.

    :) Tanggapan : Saya juga ingin tau tafsiran anda atau pendeta anda tentang ayat-ayat dari alkitab yang dipostingkan supratacus

    Ginilah, jawablah pertanyaan saya:
    - Mengapa di ajaran islam diajarkan untuk membenci Isarel dan Kristen??? Padahal kami, Kristen, tidak pernah membenci kalian.

    - Mengapa Nabi Muhammad punya isteri lebih dari 50? Apa di islam, isteri / perempuan hanya jadi pemuas nafsu saja???

    - Mengapa ,seperti yg pernah saya dengar dari media yg memuat pengakuan org2 yg masuk ke Kristen, 80% isi Al-Quran menceritakan ttg Yesus (Isa)?
    Klw anda tidak tahu atau menyangkal berarti anda dangkal dalam agama dan cuma memakai logika anda.

    - masih banyak pertanyaan yg jika kami, Kristen, jawab menurut pemikiran kami, bagaimana menurut anda?????

    - Mengapa islam cuma memakai bhs arab dalam pengajarannya????
    Bukankah Tuhan itu mahatau???? Atau karena takut ketahuan semua isinya???

    jawaban:

    1. Islam tidak mengajarkan kebencian kepada umat agama lain yang tidak berusaha memfitnah,memerangi dan memusuhi umat Islam…contoh : ada disekeliling anda

    Dalam Al-quran cuma menyebutkan bahwa Yahudi,nasrani adalah umat yang menyimpang dari ajaran Allah (tidak semuanya karena masih ada mereka yang menjalankan Ajaran Nabi Isa AS yang benar walau dia tidak masuk Islam,Mudah-mudahan Allah SWT memberikan hidayah-Nya kepada mereka )

    2. Karena beliau mampu berbuat ADIL kepada semua Istrinya dan tujuannya untuk mengangkat martabat para wanita yang dinikahinya karena ALLAH SWT bukan nafsu semata..Dan beliau pun mulai berpoligami disaat berumur 51 tahun

    3. Dalam Al-quran memang ada tentang NAbi Isa AS bukan Yesus….(Yang kalian Tuhan kan)

    4. Jika Al-quran turun di Indonesia saya yakin Tulisan Aslinya berbahasa Indonesia….Pertanyaan yang sama juga saya tanyakan kepada anda dan seluruh pengunjung Blog ini yang beragama kristen…

    KENAPA aLKITAB ANDA TIDAK MENCANTUMKAN TULISAN ASLINYA????MENGAPA HANYA TERJEMAHAN (terjemahan bisa keliru juga toh,tapi TULISAN ASLI gak mungkin keliru karena itu Firman ALLAH)???BUKANKAH LEBIH BAIK JIKA TULISAN ASLI DAN TERJEMAHAN DISATUKAN????

  21. @What if
    June 19, 2010 • 10:00 pm

    Soal poligami, saya rasa itu hanya alasan saja. Alasannya supaya tidak berzinah, saya rasa adalah alasan yang dibuat2 saja. Hanya karena pikiran sudah penuh dengan hal yang mesum, sehingga ga tahan dan takut dibilang berzinah, jadi kawin lagi. Dengan mengingini wanita lain selain istri aja sudah zinah. Kasihan bgt tuh istri.
    Trus, bisa lagi pake alasan mau menolong wanita miskin ataupun anak dibawah umur. Wah ini hanya alasan supaya bisa kawin lagi.
    Emangnya kalo mau tolong wanita, janda maupun anak kecil hrs dgn kawin ya? Kan bisa dgn dijadikan saudara ataupun anak angkatkan, bukannya menginginkan untuk dikawinin. Kawin, kawin lagi.
    Dengan mengingini wanita lain selain istri aja sudah zinah. Kasihan bgt tuh istri.

    Response:
    Jika yang melakukan Poligami itu anda,saya yakin komen anda diatas pantas untuk anda pakai

  22. @Bionic
    Itu bukan ispan jempol belaka, coba baca buku2 yang ada di website ini, kemudian cocokan dengan kebenaran dengan sumber yang ada, maka anda juga akan dapat menganalisa sendiri kebenaran pernyataan saya…

    Silakan diteliti lagi…

    Terima kasih…

    Tanggapan :

    Sudah banyak buku-buku yang mendeskreditkan Islam bung,dan ternyata penulisnya bukan orang Islam dan mengambil sumber yang menyimpang dari Islam (contohnya ada di blog ini ).Jadi kenapa Anda hanya berani merujuk tentang Islam dari buku tersebut????????????????????apakah anda Phobia terhadap Islam??????

  23. Soal Poligami no comment aaaahhhh….

    Yang pasti tetap konsisten.

    SIAPAPUN YANG MENCIDERAI MANUSIA & KEMANUSIAAN DIA TELAH MELANGGAR HUKUM CINTA KASIH.

    Walau dia seorang Rasul sekalipun.

    @ Chandra
    U wrote:
    Sudah banyak buku-buku yang mendeskreditkan Islam bung,dan ternyata penulisnya bukan orang Islam dan mengambil sumber yang menyimpang dari Islam (contohnya ada di blog ini ).Jadi kenapa Anda hanya berani merujuk tentang Islam dari buku tersebut???????????????????? apakah anda Phobia terhadap Islam??????

    Comment:
    Mark A. Gabriel (Penulis Buku Jesus & Muhammad) tadinya adalah seorang Muslim penghafal Al-Quran & Ribuan Hadist juga seorang Doktor pengajar sejarah Islam di Universitas Al-Azhar Kairo. Silahkan googling / search di web ttg dia (di wiki juga ada)

    Coba aja baca dulu Bro :)

    Kalo melihat apa yg dilakukan para teroris yg mengatasnamakan Islam, apakah mengherankan bila kemudian ada yg phobia terhadap Islam?
    Saya Pribadi selalu berusaha untuk selalu memiliki Cinta Kasih termasuk pada Saudara2 Muslim :)
    (Doakan saya agar bisa yah :) )

    Peace & LOVE 2 U & 2 all

  24. @ CHANDRA

    U WROTE:
    Dalam Al-quran memang ada tentang NAbi Isa AS bukan Yesus….(Yang kalian Tuhan kan)

    ANSWER:
    BERARTI CERITA NABI MUSA DI ALQURAN BUKAN MUSA YANG DI ALKITAB YA???? HEHEHEHE….
    BERARTI CERITA NABI NUH DI ALQURAN BUKAN NUH YANG DI ALKITAB YA???? HEHEHEHEHE….
    BERARTI CERITA NABI DAUD VS GOLIAT BUKAN DAUD YANG DI ALKITAB YA??? HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE……..

    PAK CHANDRA, ANDA MENULIS TANPA BERPIKIR DULU YA…
    HATI-HATI PAK KALAU MEMBUAT KESIMPULAN.
    KALAU DI ALQURAN TIDAK DINYATAKAN SECARA JELAS TENTANG KETUHANAN YESUS KRISTUS (ISA), MUNGKIN ITU HANYA KESALAHAN TEKNIS SAAT ALKITAB SEDANG DI COPY-PASTE-EDIT.

    pemahaman anda ternyata cukup sampai level itu.

  25. @SUPRATACUS comment sy :pemahaman anda kacau sekali soal ayat2 alkitab.kacau kontks per konteksnya …berdoa dulu yah sblm komment.. :)

    @ chandra
    Jika yang melakukan Poligami itu anda,saya yakin komen anda diatas pantas untuk anda pakai.

    comment sy : anda yakin dg koment anda,tuh? justru What if mengomentari muhamad yg berpoligami. kok jd anda lempar koment nya ke dia?berarti anda menyindir muhamad yg suka kawin donk?

  26. untung za kebuka aku situs ne….
    hampir za masuk agama “teoritis” aku..
    hufftttt….
    alhamdulillah ya YESUSSS…….

  27. tidak ada guna nya kita memperdebatkan masalah agama…karena tidak akan ada ujung nya…
    memperdebatkan agama sama saja membuat peluang iblis untuk mengadu domba kita ( manusia ).

    INGAT : TUHAN TIDAK PERLU PEMBELAAN KITA, MELAINKAN KITA YANG MEMERLUKAN PEMBELAAN TUHAN …

    so,,,mendingan kita fokus kepada kepercayaan kita masing2 dan lihat apa yang akan terjadi pada akhir zaman siapa yg keliru dan siapa yang tidak …

    terapkan lah KASIH didalam diri kita maka semuanya akan baik ada nya …

    GBU ALL …

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